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    Posthumous harm occurs when posthumous events change the ... — Carmelics
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    Posthumous harm occurs when posthumous events change the value of a person's life for the worse.

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    • 1.Posthumous events may affect the quality of a person's life, say by changing the value of her accomplishments.
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    • 2.Later events may affect the meaning of earlier events, and the latter bears on the value of a person's life.
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    • 1.Harm requires a subject who is made worse off, but the dead lack the experiential states necessary to be harmed by any event.
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    • 2.Changing the retrospective value of a life does not constitute harm unless the person whose life it is can be disadvantaged by that change.
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    • 1.The value of a life is fixed at death, since no further experiences, achievements, or relations can be added to or subtracted from the completed biographical whole.
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    • 2.Posthumous events that appear to devalue accomplishments merely alter survivors' assessments, not the intrinsic value of the life as actually lived.
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    AI-extracted2/3 agreementValid
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    Grover (1989), Velleman (1991)
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    Some theorists say that posthumous harm occurs when posthumous events change the value of a person’s life for the worse. Dorothy Grover (1989) suggests that posthumous events may affect the “quality” of a person's life, say by changing the value of her accomplishments. David Velleman (1991) argues along similar lines, claiming that later events may affect the meaning of earlier events, and the latter bears on the value of a person’s life.
    Extraction notes

    Validity: Both premises, attributed to Grover and Velleman respectively, provide supporting reasons for the conclusion that posthumous harm occurs when posthumous events change the value of a person's life for the worse, and this support relationship is clearly present in the source passage.

    Confidence: The arguments from Grover and Velleman are presented as supporting reasons for the general claim about posthumous harm. The passage explicitly frames them as theorists who hold this view and provide supporting reasoning.

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