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    Power can be rightfully exercised over a member of a civi... — Carmelics
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    Power can be rightfully exercised over a member of a civilized community only to prevent harm to others.

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    • 1.A person's own good, whether physical or moral, is not a sufficient warrant for compelling that person.
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    • 2.Compulsion is not justified merely because it would make a person happier or because others believe it would be wise or right.
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    • 3.Only conduct that concerns others makes a person amenable to society's authority.
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    • 1.The self/other harm distinction presupposes an atomistic conception of the self that communitarians like MacIntyre argue is philosophically incoherent.
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    • 2.Because persons are constituted by social relationships and practices, harms to communal norms and character are genuinely harms to others, not merely self-regarding.
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    • 3.Therefore, Devlin's claim that shared morality is a public good whose erosion harms society provides a legitimate basis for power beyond Mill's narrow harm principle.
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    • 1.Feinberg's offense principle demonstrates that serious, profound offense to unwilling witnesses constitutes a harm sufficient to justify legal prohibition.
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    • 2.Mill's harm principle, as historically articulated, cannot adequately distinguish between setback of interests and mere preference-frustration without importing contested value judgments.
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    • 3.The indeterminacy of 'harm to others' means the principle functions as a rhetorical constraint rather than a determinate criterion, undermining its claim to limit sovereign power.
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    The only principle for which power can be rightfully exercised over any member of a civilized community, against his will, is to prevent harm to others. His own good, either physical or moral, is not a sufficient warrant. He cannot rightfully be compelled to do or forbear because it will be better for him to do so, because it will make him happier, because, in the opinion of others, to do so would be wise or even right. These are good reasons for remonstrating with him, or reasoning with him, or
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