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    Punishment, not suffering, is the proper retributive dese... — Carmelics
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    Challenges→The instrumentalist conception of retributivism should be rejected.

    Punishment, not suffering, is the proper retributive desert object.

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    The idea of retributive justice has played a dominant role in theorizing about punishment over the past few decades, but many features of it—especially the notions of desert and proportionality, the normative status of suffering, and the ultimate justification for retribution—remain contested and problematic.

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