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    It is not the case that Quine's naturalism establishes that no proposition is immune from revision in light of recalcitrant experience, including logical laws.

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    • 1.Revising logic itself requires using logic to argue for the revision, making the claim self-undermining and incoherent.
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    • 2.Apparent logic revisions (quantum logic) are better explained as changes in *models* or *interpretation*, not in fundamental logical laws.
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    • 3.Some propositions (like non-contradiction) seem necessarily true independent of experience; granting this limits Quine's universality claim.
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    • 1.Scientific history shows logic itself has been revised: classical logic abandoned for quantum logic in some interpretations.
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    • 2.If logic were unrevisable, we couldn't explain why we rationally abandoned certain logical principles across different domains.
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    • 3.Quine's holism shows beliefs form an interconnected web where even core logical beliefs can absorb empirical pressure from the periphery.
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