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    Challenges→The account of legitimate authority as a justification right is not undermined by the autonomy-based objection to authority.

    Raz's service conception shows that any account dissolving content-independent obligations dissolves the very concept of authority, making the justification right account not an authority account at all.

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    • 1.Authority requires that subjects have reason to obey independent of the content's independent justification.
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    • 2.If justification-right accounts eliminate content-independent obligations, they collapse authority into mere advice.
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    • 3.Raz's service conception preserves the distinctive normative force that distinguishes authority from persuasion.
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    • 1.Content-independent obligations can exist without dissolving the concept of authority itself.
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    • 2.A justification-right account may preserve authority's legitimacy through a different mechanism than Raz proposes.
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    • 3.Dissolving one account of authority's foundations doesn't eliminate authority as a practical social phenomenon.
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    Content-independent obligations(as the type of obligation this statement says the service conception dissolves)
    Rules or duties you have to follow just because someone in authority told you to, regardless of whether the rule itself makes sense or is fair.
    Justification right account(as the alternative theory being critiqued in this statement)
    A competing theory of authority claiming that authority is justified when it has the right reasons backing it up, separate from whether it actually serves people well.
    Raz(being cited as an authority on rights theory)
    Joseph Raz (1939–), an influential legal and political philosopher who wrote extensively about rights, freedom, and how laws should be justified.
    authority(as another method a physician might use to ensure patients comply with treatment)
    The power or right to make decisions and have others follow them, based on expertise or position. A doctor has authority because of their medical knowledge.
    service conception(Referenced as an alternative to democracy-based legitimacy accounts)
    An account of political legitimacy that does not treat democracy as a universally necessary or sufficient condition for legitimacy

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