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    Reid's own puzzle demonstrates that memory-based identity... — Carmelics
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    Reid's own puzzle demonstrates that memory-based identity generates contradictions precisely because it cannot sustain transitive closure across broken recollective chains.

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    • 1.Reid's puzzle shows person A remembers B, B remembers C, but A cannot remember C, breaking transitivity required for identity continuity.
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    • 2.If memory is the criterion for personal identity, broken chains mean identity relations are intransitive, violating logical requirements for equivalence relations.
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    • 3.Memory gaps are common over lifespans, so memory-based identity must accept some people are not identical to their earlier selves—an absurd conclusion.
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    • 1.Memory need not be direct or complete; overlapping chains of memories can establish identity without requiring A to directly remember C.
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    • 2.Personal identity may not require a strict logical equivalence relation; identity can be non-transitive without undermining its explanatory value.
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    • 3.Reid's puzzle targets only direct individual memory, but psychological continuity through intention, character, and chains is what grounds identity.
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