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    Republican self-government historically required subordin... — Carmelics
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    Challenges→Liberties of action — including freedom of association, freedom of worship, and freedom to choose one's occupation — are necessary for self-government.

    Republican self-government historically required subordination of individual liberty to civic virtue, as Rousseau's general will and Aristotle's polis both demonstrate.

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    • 1.Ancient Greek city-states achieved political stability and collective flourishing by prioritizing communal goods over private interests.
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    • 2.Rousseau's general will theory shows that legitimate authority requires citizens to sublimate personal desires to the common good.
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    • 3.Historical republics that collapsed often did so when citizens pursued private gain over civic participation and virtue.
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    • 1.Aristotle's polis depended on slavery and excluded women/foreigners, suggesting 'civic virtue' masked systematic oppression, not genuine self-government.
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    • 2.Rousseau's general will historically enabled tyranny by majority, proving subordination of liberty doesn't guarantee virtue or justice.
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    • 3.Modern democracies with strong individual protections have proven more stable and prosperous than those emphasizing subordination to civic virtue.
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