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    Robert Nozick's experience machine argument shows that ra... — Carmelics
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    Supports→Pleasure is not the true or ultimate measure of choice-worthiness

    Robert Nozick's experience machine argument shows that rational agents consistently prefer real virtuous engagement over maximally pleasurable simulations.

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    • 1.Most people reject experience machines in thought experiments, suggesting they value authentic engagement beyond mere subjective states.
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    • 2.Virtue requires real-world challenges and genuine consequences; simulated virtue development lacks the formative resistance of actual struggle.
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    • 3.Meaningful relationships and accomplishments depend on real reciprocity and external validation, not internal simulation.
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    • 1.Rejecting experience machines may reflect status quo bias and fear of the unknown rather than rational preference for objective reality.
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    • 2.If consciousness is what matters morally, and simulations create identical conscious states, the distinction between real and simulated lacks normative force.
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    • 3.Survey responses about hypothetical machines don't reliably predict actual choices when faced with unbearable real circumstances or terminal illness.
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