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    Self-deception cannot require that the self-deceptive belief itself be desired.

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    • 1.A unified account of self-deception must explain both welcome and unwelcome beliefs.
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    • 2.Unwelcome beliefs, by definition, are not themselves desired.
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    • 1.Freudian wish-fulfillment theory holds that even painful beliefs can be desired as punishments by a self-critical superego.
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    • 2.If unconscious agencies can desire unwelcome beliefs as self-punishment, then 'unwelcome' at the conscious level does not exhaust motivational structure.
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    • 3.A complete account of self-deception must accommodate sub-personal or unconscious desire, not merely first-person avowable desire.
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    • 1.Sartre's analysis of bad faith shows that agents can desire a particular self-image so strongly that they distort evidence to preserve it, even when the resulting belief is nominally unwelcome.
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    • 2.The desire need not be for the belief's propositional content but for the identity-sustaining role the belief plays, making desire integral to the mechanism without requiring the belief itself to be pleasant.
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    One question philosophers have sought to answer is how a single unified account of self-deception can explain both welcome and unwelcome beliefs. If a unified account is sought, then it seems self-deception cannot require that the self-deceptive belief itself be desired. Pears (1984) has argued that unwelcome belief might be driven by fear or jealousy. My fear of my house burning down might motivate my false belief that I have left the stove burner on. This unwelcome belief serves to ensure that
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