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    Self-knowledge of certain psychological facts, when arriv... — Carmelics
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    Self-knowledge of certain psychological facts, when arrived at in the ordinary way without mirrors, is immune to error through misidentification relative to the first-person pronoun.

    Consciousness & MindPersonal Identity
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    • 1.When one knows psychological facts like 'I am waving my arm' or 'I see a canary' in the ordinary way, there is no need for identification of the subject in the first place.
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    • 2.Where there is no need for identification, there is no opportunity for misidentification.
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    • 3.Error through misidentification requires that one mistakenly identify another person as oneself.
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    • 1.Shoemaker's immunity thesis presupposes a unified, bounded subject, but Parfitian fission cases entail that psychological states may be co-instantiated by two equally valid claimants to 'I'.
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    • 2.When psychological self-ascription occurs in a fission scenario, the pronoun 'I' fails to uniquely refer, so the absence of misidentification is not immunity but mere referential indeterminacy.
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    • 3.A condition that holds only under the assumption of personal identity cannot itself ground the immunity that personal identity theorists invoke it to explain, without circularity.
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    • 1.Split-brain and depersonalization cases show subjects sincerely doubting whether a reported mental state belongs to 'me' or an alien presence within.
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    • 2.If misidentification errors are empirically possible in psychological self-ascription, immunity cannot be constitutively guaranteed by the absence of perceptual identification.
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    Key Terms

    First-person pronoun(as used in philosophy of language and epistemology)
    Words like 'I,' 'me,' 'my,' and 'mine'—the pronouns you use to refer to yourself.
    Misidentification(as used in epistemology)
    Incorrectly identifying or figuring out which person or thing something is referring to.
    Psychological facts(contrasted with non-psychological facts in the statement)
    Information about how our minds work—what we think, feel, experience, and believe.
    immune to error through misidentification relative to the first-person pronoun(Epistemology of self-knowledge; first-person authority)
    A judgment is immune to error through misidentification relative to the first-person pronoun when one cannot be wrong about that judgment due to mistakenly identifying someone else as oneself — because no identification of the subject is required to form the judgment.
    knowledge(Distinguished from mere true belief, which may be the product of indoctrination and need not exercise deliberative capacities.)
    Justified true belief — true belief that has been arrived at through the exercise of deliberative capacities, including comparison of and deliberation among alternatives.
    self-knowledge(Presented as the sole means to mokṣa, contrasted with ritual action or meditative practice aimed at gaining brahman.)
    A radical epistemic shift by which one simultaneously sheds limited self-identities and directly recognizes one's existence as nondual consciousness.

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    Shoemaker (1968), for example, argues that self-knowledge of certain psychological facts such as “I am waving my arm” or “I see a canary”, when arrived at “in the ordinary way (without the aid of mirrors, etc.)”, is immune to error through misidentification relative to the first-person pronoun (see also Campbell 1999; Pryor 1999; Bar-On 2004; Hamilton 2008). That is, although one may be wrong about waving one’s arm (perhaps the nerves to your arm were recently severed unbeknownst to you) or abou
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