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    Sin robs God's honor — Carmelics
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    Challenges→Lex Talionis supports ECT

    Sin robs God's honor

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    • 1.Anselm's Cur Deus Homo defines honor as the fitting order of rational creatures rendering God His due obedience and worship.
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    • 2.Sin, as deliberate refusal of this due, constitutes a precise metaphysical debt that disrupts the objective relational order between Creator and creature.
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    • 3.A disrupted relational order constitutes a real ontological privation in the cosmic moral structure, not merely a subjective slight.
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    • 1.Aquinas grounds honor in real excellence: to honor God is to acknowledge His objective supremacy, making honor a relational property grounded in fact.
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    • 2.Sin involves a practical denial of God's supremacy by treating finite goods as ultimate, thereby actively misrepresenting the objective moral hierarchy.
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    • 3.Actively misrepresenting an objective hierarchy constitutes a real affront to that hierarchy's principle, resolving the ambiguity objection by anchoring honor in metaphysical realism.
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    • Honor=ambiguously defined
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    • If the above is true, then it is not that sin robs God's honor
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