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    It is not the case that Sinners can freely separate themselves from God forever.

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    Reasons For

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    Reason for 1 of 2
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    • 1.An omnipotent, perfectly loving God would possess the capacity to dispel illusions that sustain sinful rejection without violating free will.
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    • 2.If God can reveal truth more fully post-mortem (as Hick's eschatological verification suggests), then no illusion need persist forever.
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    • 3.Therefore, the perpetuation of salvific illusions eternally is incompatible with both divine omnipotence and perfect love.
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    Reason for 2 of 2
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    • 1.Free will requires the capacity for genuine rational deliberation, which is undermined by persistent cognitive distortion or illusion.
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    • 2.A choice grounded in illusion—as P2 and P3 explicitly concede—lacks the authenticity required for it to constitute a morally binding, irrevocable self-determination.
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    • 3.Marilyn McCord Adams argues in 'Horrendous Evils' that choices made under conditions of profound cognitive impairment cannot ground eternal consequences.
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    Reasons Against

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    • 1.Even though the perfectly loving God would never reject anyone, sinners can reject God.
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    • 2.Sinners have the power as free agents to reject God for a season, during the time when they are mired in ambiguity and subject to illusion.
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    • 3.Sinners are also able to cling forever to the illusions that make such rejection possible in the first place.
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