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    It is not the case that Soundness requires not merely true premises but premises known to be true, as Sextus Empiricus argued against dogmatic claims of propositional certainty.

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    • 1.Knowledge itself requires justification—requiring known premises creates circularity: we cannot establish knowledge without already having it.
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    • 2.Most successful sciences operate with high-confidence but non-certain premises; Sextus's standard would paralyze empirical inquiry.
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    • 3.Distinguishing 'true but unknown' from 'known' premises requires epistemology beyond logic; soundness should remain a logical rather than epistemological concept.
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    • 1.An argument's rational persuasiveness depends on justification quality, not just truth—we cannot rationally accept conclusions from premises we merely guess are true.
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    • 2.The regress problem shows that without known premises, we lack stopping points for justification chains, leaving all conclusions ultimately arbitrary.
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    • 3.Dogmatic claims to certainty often mask unexamined assumptions; demanding known premises prevents smuggling undefended beliefs into logical systems.
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