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    It is not the case that Substantive democratic equality should have no independent weight against the fundamental aim of producing just laws and policies.

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    • 1.The point of democratic politics is to produce just laws, policies, and substantively just outcomes generally.
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    • 2.Substantive democratic equality is only instrumentally valuable insofar as it is a means to substantive justice.
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    • 3.When substantive democratic equality conflicts with producing substantively just outcomes, the latter takes priority.
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    • 1.Rawls's difference principle subordinates procedural fairness to substantive outcomes benefiting the least advantaged, establishing outcome-priority within liberal theory.
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    • 2.If even the most influential liberal egalitarian framework treats procedures as derivative of substantive justice, democratic equality cannot claim lexical priority over just outcomes.
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    • 3.Democratic procedures that systematically produce unjust outcomes—as in majoritarian oppression of minorities—thereby forfeit their normative authority on consequentialist grounds.
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    • 1.Mill's epistemic defense of democracy in 'Considerations on Representative Government' grounds democratic legitimacy entirely in its tendency to produce wise, beneficial legislation.
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    • 2.If democratic equality's justification is itself consequentialist and outcome-dependent, it generates no independent deontological weight capable of overriding substantive justice.
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    • 3.Instrumentally grounded institutions lose their claim to deference precisely when they demonstrably fail the consequentialist purposes that constitute their sole justification.
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