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    Supervenience physicalism avoids the problem that token p... — Carmelics
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    Supervenience physicalism avoids the problem that token physicalism faces with social or legal objects.

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    • 1.Supervenience physicalism entails that the facts about the court supervene on physical facts.
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    • 2.Supervenience physicalism does not entail that there is any physical object that the court is identical with.
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    • 3.Token physicalism requires identity between the court and some physical object, which is unintuitive for social or legal objects.
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    • 1.Supervenience is compatible with dualism, as Chalmers demonstrated: consciousness supervenes on physics without being physical.
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    • 2.If supervenience alone does not entail physicalism for consciousness, it equally fails to secure physicalism for social or legal objects.
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    • 3.A claim that avoids one problem by adopting a relation too weak to guarantee physicalism has not solved but merely deferred the explanatory burden.
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    • 1.Jaegwon Kim showed that global supervenience is too coarse-grained to capture the dependence relations physicalism requires.
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    • 2.Two possible worlds could be micro-physically identical yet differ in which legal facts obtain if legal facts depend on intentional attitudes not fully fixed by local physical states.
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    • 3.Supervenience physicalism therefore does not trivially dissolve the problem of social objects but inherits Kim's challenge about what grounds the supervenience relation itself.
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    Not only does (3) not provide a sufficient condition for physicalism, it does not provide a necessary condition either. Consider a social or legal object such as the United States Court of Appeals for the Seventh Circuit. According to (3), if physicalism is true, there must be some physical object or particular for the court to be identical with. But intuitively, there is no such physical object. Nevertheless, physicalism might still be true. If so, token physicalism is not necessary for physica
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