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    It is not the case that Survival in the memory and honor of the community provides a major consolation only if one is optimistic concerning the persistence and continued memory of the community, as well as the accuracy and justice of their judgments.

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    • 1.The Stoic and Epicurean traditions hold that consolation's value is determined by its psychological efficacy for the living, not by the metaphysical accuracy of its underlying assumptions.
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    • 2.A belief can provide genuine consolation even when its presuppositions are uncertain, as Kant argued regarding rational faith in postulates of practical reason.
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    • 3.Therefore, the consolation of communal memory does not logically depend on optimism about community persistence, but on the motivational and emotional work the belief performs for the dying.
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    • 1.Aristotle's account of eudaimonia allows that a person's flourishing can be genuinely extended posthumously through the fortunes of their community, children, and works, independent of perfect memory.
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    • 2.Partial, imperfect, or even distorted communal memory can still instantiate a meaningful causal relationship between a person's actions and subsequent human goods.
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    • 3.The claim conflates the conditions for perfect survival with the conditions for sufficient consolation, a standard Aristotelian scholarship on posthumous harm, following Pitcher and Feinberg, explicitly rejects.
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    • This form of 'survival' depends on the community continuing to exist, continuing to remember, and judging accurately and justly.
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