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    The absolute terms of Aristotelian proportionality do not apply to violent motion.

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    • 1.Aristotle's proportionality rules (Physics VII.5) require a resistant medium as the causal denominator against which motive force is measured.
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    • 2.In violent motion, the external mover supplants the body's natural tendency, dissolving the internal resistance that grounds proportional calculation.
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    • 3.Without internal resistance as a stable denominator, the ratio F/R becomes mathematically degenerate, making Aristotelian proportion inapplicable by its own formal conditions.
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    • 1.Ibn Bajja's analysis of motion in void shows that proportionality collapses when resistance approaches zero, yielding infinite speed—a reductio of the formula itself.
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    • 2.Violent motion approaches the void-condition structurally: the mobile offers no natural countervailing power, so resistance is contingent and extrinsic, not intrinsic to the body.
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    • 3.Avempace's conclusion that natural and violent motion belong to categorically distinct causal regimes entails that a single proportionality schema cannot govern both without equivocation.
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    • 1.The moving power is subject to time and distance factors.
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    • 2.The mobile body can offer almost no resistance in violent motion.
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    • 3.Proportionality rules presuppose conditions that violent motion does not satisfy.
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    When two opposing powers are equal, there is no motion, and when one power “overcomes” the other, the body moves until it suffers “exhaustion” (kalal), because any body moved “violently” creates a contrary power stronger than the one imposed by the mover, and also because the imposed force becomes “exhausted”. The moving power is also subject to time and distance factors and the mobile can offer almost no resistance, so that the absolute terms of proportionality do not apply.
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