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    The advice of good people must be sought and heeded. — Carmelics
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    The advice of good people must be sought and heeded.

    Democracy & GovernanceVirtue Ethics
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    • 1.Good people are skilled at discovering the mean in difficult cases.
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    • 2.A standard or measure is something that settles disputes.
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    • 3.Good people function as a standard and measure for the community.
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    • 1.Rousseau and deliberative democrats hold that legitimate political authority derives from collective self-legislation, not deference to virtuous exemplars.
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    • 2.Heeding the advice of good people substitutes epistocracy for democratic agency, undermining citizens' moral development through their own deliberative participation.
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    • 3.Mill argued in 'On Liberty' that paternalistic deference to wise authorities atrophies the individual's rational and moral faculties over time.
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    • 1.Identifying 'good people' requires prior agreement on substantive moral standards, creating a circular justification for their authority.
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    • 2.In pluralist societies, rival conceptions of virtue produce rival candidates for 'good person,' making the standard indeterminate rather than action-guiding.
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    To say that such a person “sees” what to do is simply a way of registering the point that the good person’s reasoning does succeed in discovering what is best in each situation. He is “as it were a standard and measure” in the sense that his views should be regarded as authoritative by other members of the community. A standard or measure is something that settles disputes; and because good people are so skilled at discovering the mean in difficult cases, their advice must be sought and heeded.
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