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    The Argument from Institutional Desert (AID) is false or ... — Carmelics
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    The Argument from Institutional Desert (AID) is false or morally defective

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    • 1.Desert claims are normatively valid only when grounded in institutions that themselves satisfy independent moral constraints (Rawls, A Theory of Justice, §48).
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    • 2.Slavery fails independent moral constraints by violating persons' status as self-owning rational agents, nullifying any desert claims it purports to generate.
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    • 3.Therefore, the slave counterexample exposes that AID conflates institutional recognition of desert with genuine desert, confirming AID is morally defective.
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    • 1.Genuine pre-institutional desert requires a fitting relationship between the desert basis and the deserved treatment (Feinberg, 'Justice and Personal Desert', 1963).
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    • 2.Being physically strong bears no morally relevant fitting relationship to unpaid coerced labor, so the slave case generates no authentic desert claim whatsoever.
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    • 3.AID's failure to require this fittingness condition means it cannot distinguish legitimate from monstrous institutional demands, rendering it morally defective as a general theory.
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    • 1.AID holds that an individual deserves what institutions require of them in virtue of the properties the institution cites as grounds
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    • 2.Slavery is a real social institution that requires strong and healthy slaves to work without pay
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    • 3.AID implies that a strong and healthy slave deserves to work without pay in virtue of being strong and healthy
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    An equally serious objection arises from the fact that some of the institutions that actually exist are morally indefensible. Let us imagine a thoroughly horrible social institution – slavery. Suppose some unfortunate individual is governed by that institution. Suppose the institution contains rules that say that slaves who are strong and healthy shall be required to work without pay in the cotton fields. Suppose this individual is strong and healthy. Consider the claim that he deserves to be re
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