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    The Bible should not be considered proof for immortality ... — Carmelics
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    The Bible should not be considered proof for immortality of the soul

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    • 1.The Hebrew concept of 'nephesh' denotes a mortal, embodied being, not an immortal soul separable from the body.
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    • 2.Old Testament anthropology consistently treats death as genuine cessation, with Sheol as a shadowy non-existence rather than conscious afterlife.
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    • 3.N.T. Wright and Oscar Cullmann demonstrate that biblical resurrection hope presupposes the soul is NOT naturally immortal and requires divine re-creation.
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    • 1.Plato's Phaedo grounds immortality in the soul's pre-existence and essential immateriality, categories wholly absent from Pauline theology.
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    • 2.First Corinthians 15 frames resurrection as a future eschatological gift from God, implying the soul does not survive death on its own power.
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    • 3.If immortality were a natural human property, resurrection would be redundant—its centrality in the New Testament presupposes natural mortality.
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    • 1.The idea of immortality comes from Plato
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    • 2.If the above is true, the idea of immortality does not come from the Bible
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