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    Challenges→If eternal separation from the highest good produces maximal suffering in conscious beings, then eternal alienation and utmost torment are not mutually exclusive but co-constitutive.

    The claim conflates psychological suffering with metaphysical necessity; even if separation causes suffering, this doesn't prove they're co-constitutive rather than merely correlated.

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    Conflates(in argumentation and logic)
    Treats two different things as if they're the same thing, or mixes them up in a way that causes confusion.
    Psychological suffering(as contrasted with abstract philosophical claims)
    Emotional or mental pain that a person experiences, like sadness, anxiety, or distress.
    co-constitutive(Nāgārjuna's non-foundationalist account of the two truths)
    A relation in which two truths mutually entail each other — neither can obtain without the other.
    correlated(as used in statistics and causality)
    When two things tend to happen together or move together—if one changes, the other tends to change too—but one doesn't necessarily cause the other.
    metaphysical necessity(Distinguishing types of necessity)

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