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    Supports→The highest God must be distinguished from the divine demiurge

    The demiurge directly engages with matter to impose order on the physical world

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    Creation requires the demiurge to engage with matter89%The demiurge transmits that goodness to the world it creates.86%Matter inspires desire in the demiurge for imposing order and goodness84%Numenius' demiurge is not ignorant or a less-than-good creator analogo...81%

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    Numenius, then, distinguishes two sources of reality, or two ontological principles, God-the Good and matter (inspired by Timaeus 47e-48a and Aristotle's report about Plato's principles in Metaphysics 988a7–15). Yet the crucial question for Numenius was how one should think about this divine principle, the Good, what kind of God this is. Numenius' position on this has much to do with his view on matter. Numenius advocates a strong dualistic position. In this he is like Plutarch and later Atticus

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