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    The highest God must be distinguished from the divine demiurge

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    • 1.The highest God must be distanced from matter as much as possible to avoid being the source of evil
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    • 2.The demiurge directly engages with matter to impose order on the physical world
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    • 3.Therefore the highest God cannot be identical with the demiurge
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    • 1.Plotinus argues that the One's causal efficacy operates through necessary emanation, not volitional engagement, making contact with matter unnecessary.
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    • 2.If the highest principle generates all being through overflow rather than deliberate ordering, no contamination from matter threatens its purity.
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    • 3.Therefore the distinction between highest God and demiurge collapses into a single principle with hierarchically differentiated causal modes.
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    • 1.The Stoic tradition holds that the divine logos is simultaneously the highest rational principle and the immanent ordering force within matter.
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    • 2.If divine transcendence and material engagement are compatible within a single principle, the premise that matter-contact disqualifies the highest God is not universally defensible.
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    Numenius, then, distinguishes two sources of reality, or two ontological principles, God-the Good and matter (inspired by Timaeus 47e-48a and Aristotle's report about Plato's principles in Metaphysics 988a7–15). Yet the crucial question for Numenius was how one should think about this divine principle, the Good, what kind of God this is. Numenius' position on this has much to do with his view on matter. Numenius advocates a strong dualistic position. In this he is like Plutarch and later Atticus
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