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    It is not the case that The different velocities of celestial spheres are caused by differences in nobility between mover and movable, not by resistance or violence.

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    • 1.Aristotle's Physics (VII.1-2) establishes that all motion requires a mover in direct contact, implying relational resistance is intrinsic to any mover-movable pair.
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    • 2.If nobility is a scalar property of movers, spheres of equal nobility would move identically, yet empirical astronomy reveals no such proportional correlation between rank and velocity.
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    • 3.Ibn Bajja's framework smuggles in a quasi-Platonic emanationist hierarchy that lacks the causal mechanism needed to convert ontological rank into determinate kinematic quantities.
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    • 1.Averroes (Long Commentary on De Caelo II.6) argues that celestial velocity differences require a positive account of the movable's receptive capacity, not merely the mover's dignity.
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    • 2.A purely nobility-based account collapses the distinction between efficient and formal causation, making it unclear how the superior nature of the mover produces a specific finite velocity rather than instantaneous motion.
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    • 1.Celestial spheres undergo no violent motion, because nothing bends their movement and no new place is taken by a sphere.
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    • 2.If motion were purely natural and unimpeded, circular movement should be instantaneous.
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    • 3.Yet some spheres move slowly (such as the sphere of fixed stars) and others move quickly (such as the daily movement).
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