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    The Discrete Block model of the specious present fails to... — Carmelics
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    The Discrete Block model of the specious present fails to account for all experienced transitions between successive tones, and therefore cannot fully explain experienced temporal succession.

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    • 1.Husserl's retention-protention structure shows that temporal experience requires each moment to carry its immediate past as a fading echo within consciousness itself.
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    • 2.If inter-present transitions like D-to-E lack any retentional bridge, they are phenomenologically indistinguishable from absolute temporal gaps or unconscious interruptions.
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    • 3.A model that makes veridical succession phenomenologically indistinguishable from unconscious interruption cannot serve as a realist account of experienced temporal flow.
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    • 1.William James argued that consciousness is a stream precisely because no experiential content is ever fully discrete — each pulse bleeds into the next through felt continuity.
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    • 2.The Discrete Block model's sharp boundaries between specious presents contradict the introspective datum that temporal experience presents no phenomenal seams or discontinuities.
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    • 1.A viable realist account of change and succession must capture all of the change that we directly experience, not merely some of it.
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    • 2.In the Discrete Block model, each specious present is a discrete, bounded interval with no overlap between successive specious presents.
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    • 3.For a sequence of contents to be experienced as a succession, those contents must be experienced together — that is, they must be diachronically co-conscious.
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    Discrete Block model(Presented as the target of a phenomenological objection regarding missed successions.)
    A model of temporal experience in which the specious present consists of discrete, non-overlapping blocks, so that any two experiential contents are either both within the same specious present or entirely separated across distinct specious presents.
    Temporal succession(as used in philosophy of time)
    The way moments in time follow one after another in sequence, creating the experience of change and events happening in order.
    Transitions between successive tones(as used in this example about how we perceive time through sound)
    The smooth changes we hear when one musical note shifts to another—the experience of how sound moves from one pitch to the next.
    specious present(Retentionalist theory of time-consciousness)
    A unit of conscious temporal experience that encompasses an apparent duration (e.g., roughly one second), within which change and succession are phenomenally present

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    PT-realists are agreed that change and succession feature in our immediate experience. To be viable on the phenomenological level, a realist account of how this is possible must not just capture some of the change that it is plausible to suppose we directly experience, it must capture all of it. Let us suppose that C-D-E-F in Figure 7 are brief tones that are heard in succession. Given that this sequence is a typical one – with no sudden or massive disruptions in the listener’s consciousness ove
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    In the Discrete Block model, each specious present is a discrete, bounded interv...
    In the Discrete Block model, tones C and D are diachronically co-conscious (with...
    The Discrete Block model's sharp boundaries between specious presents contradict...
    This gap at every boundary between successive specious presents means every inte...
    William James argued that consciousness is a stream precisely because no experie...

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