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    It is not the case that The distance between God and any thing in space is zero (the 'Zero Thesis').

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    • 1.Distance is a relational property requiring two terms that both instantiate spatial properties for the relation to be well-formed.
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    • 2.If God lacks spatial properties entirely, the distance relation between God and spatial objects is undefined, not zero.
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    • 3.An undefined value is categorically distinct from zero distance, which would entail co-location or identity of position.
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    Reason for 2 of 2
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    • 1.Pseudo-Dionysius and the apophatic tradition hold that divine attributes resist positive quantification, including relational magnitudes like distance.
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    • 2.Assigning zero distance to God's relation to space is a positive quantitative claim that covertly re-introduces spatiality into divine nature.
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    • 3.A genuinely non-spatial being should be described as outside the metric space entirely, as Leftow argues in 'Time and Eternity', not as occupying a privileged metric value.
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    • 1.God has no spatial location.
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    • 2.There can be a spatial distance only between things or locations in space.
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    • 3.Therefore, there is no spatial distance between God and things in space.
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