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    The distinction between mind and matter is a real and sub... — Carmelics
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    The distinction between mind and matter is a real and substantial one that is impossible not to perceive

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    • 1.Mind is an immaterial substance whose essence is thought
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    • 2.Matter is corporeal extension
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    • 3.No infant has ever confused mental states with physical objects, demonstrating the intuitive clarity of the distinction
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    • 1.Neural correlates of consciousness studies show every mental state corresponds to a specific physical brain state, suggesting identity rather than substance dualism.
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    • 2.If mind and matter were truly distinct substances, causal interaction between them would violate conservation of energy laws, undermining the intuitive clarity of their alleged separation.
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    • 1.Descartes' own princess Elisabeth objection demonstrates that distinct immaterial and material substances cannot coherently interact, making the 'clear' distinction pragmatically incoherent.
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    • 2.Infants failing to confuse mental states with objects proves only functional discrimination, not metaphysical substance dualism, since a functionalist monist predicts identical behavior.
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    Desgabets also subscribed to the Cartesian conception of mind as an immaterial substance whose essence is thought. The distinction between mind and matter is thus a real and substantial one, impossible not to perceive: “Never has an infant asked for lies or truths for breakfast, nor has he imagined that the stones encountered along his path were the gross thoughts of some countryman” (OPD 5: 197). Minds, or immaterial substances, are of three kinds: uncreated, which is God; mind detached from bo
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