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    The Doppler effect does not refute the distal account of ... — Carmelics
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    The Doppler effect does not refute the distal account of sound perception

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    • 1.The Doppler effect is dependent on something occurring in the medium (sound waves)
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    • 2.Dependence on medium effects does not entail that what we hear are sound waves in the medium rather than distal sources
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    • 3.When we hear sounds undergoing the Doppler effect, we hear a vibration process in a sounding object perceived in perspectival shortening
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    • 1.The Doppler effect reveals that perceived pitch is determined by wave frequency at the listener's location, not by any property of the distal source.
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    • 2.If the perceptual quality we hear (pitch) is constituted by medium-relative wave properties, then what we perceive is the wave, not the distal vibration process.
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    • 3.The analogy to 'perspectival shortening' fails because visual foreshortening preserves object properties under projection, whereas Doppler pitch-shift reflects no intrinsic property of the source.
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    • 1.On a causal-informational account (following Dretske), a perceptual state represents whatever distal condition it carries reliable information about.
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    • 2.A listener moving relative to a stationary source hears different pitches despite the source's vibration remaining constant, so perceived pitch carries no reliable information about source frequency.
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    • 3.Therefore the Doppler case undermines the claim that pitch perception represents a distal vibrational property rather than a proximal wave property at the point of reception.
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    The second objection concerns typical acoustical effects, like the Doppler effect, which are perfectly accounted for by appealing to (medial) sound waves. The Doppler effect is a shift in frequency of the sound heard by an observer who moves relative to the sound source. As waves in the direction of movement are compressed, and waves in the opposite direction are expanded, the frequency drops dramatically when the hearer and the source go past each other. Such explanations of the Doppler effect
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