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    The dramatic unities of time, place, and action were not artificial constraints for the Greeks, though they would be artificial for modern dramatists.

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    • 1.Artistic conventions are natural when they match the conditions—worldview, customs, political structures, religion—of the culture that produced them.
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    • 2.The unities of time, place, and action matched Greek cultural and theatrical conditions.
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    • 3.Modern cultural and theatrical conditions differ substantially from those of ancient Greece.
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    • 1.Lessing argued in the Hamburgische Dramaturgie that the unities of time and place are merely derivative consequences of theatrical staging conventions, not organic expressions of Greek worldview.
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    • 2.If the unities are staging conventions rather than cultural expressions, their binding force is either universal-technical or absent, not culturally relative as the claim requires.
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    • 3.This undermines the relativist structure of the supporting argument, which treats cultural fit as the criterion distinguishing natural from artificial constraints.
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    • 1.The dramatic unities were themselves contested as artificial impositions even within Greek theatrical practice, as Aristotle's defense of them acknowledges violations by respected tragedians.
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    • 2.If the unities required theoretical justification even in their native context, they cannot be characterized as naturally arising from Greek conditions without qualification.
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    However, it would be a mistake to infer from such comments that Herder does not think that there are underlying commonalities in the arts and tastes of different times and places, or that people living in one time and culture cannot learn to appreciate deeply the art of another time and culture. On the contrary, the argument of the essay on Shakespeare is that the best art of different times and places—for example, the theater of Sophocles and that of Shakespeare—must differ superficially precis
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