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    The dream argument proves only that internally-caused exp... — Carmelics
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    Challenges→Perceptual appearances must be entirely mental and internal, rather than relational

    The dream argument proves only that internally-caused experiences are possible, not that all perceptual appearances lack relational constituents.

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    • 1.Dream experiences demonstrate that phenomenal indistinguishability from perception is possible without external objects present.
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    • 2.Showing internal causation is possible doesn't entail that relational properties are absent from all perceptual experiences.
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    • 3.The dream argument succeeds as a modal claim about possibility, not as a metaphysical claim about all actual perceptions.
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    • 1.If dreams indistinguishably mimic perception, the burden falls on defenders to explain what constitutive relational properties survive dreaming.
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    • 2.The argument's force derives precisely from showing perceptual indistinguishability requires no external relational constituents in content.
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    • 3.Restricting the conclusion to 'internal causation possible' weakens the argument's original skeptical purpose without adequate theoretical justification.
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