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    Perceptual appearances must be entirely mental and intern... — Carmelics
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    Perceptual appearances must be entirely mental and internal, rather than relational

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    • 1.Science teaches us that things are not in reality the way they appear to the senses
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    • 2.The sun perceptually appears as a small disk rather than the large sphere that it actually is
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    • 3.The transmission-of-forms theory cannot account for this error because the sun does not have the form of a small disk
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    • 1.Perceptual appearances can be relational without requiring the perceived object to instantiate the apparent property intrinsically.
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    • 2.The sun's appearing small is a real relation between the sun, the perceiver, and the viewing conditions—not a purely internal mental state.
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    • 3.J.J. Gibson's ecological optics demonstrates that relational properties like 'subtended visual angle' are genuinely present in the optic array and causally structure perception.
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    • 1.The dream argument proves only that internally-caused experiences are possible, not that all perceptual appearances lack relational constituents.
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    • 2.Disjunctivists like McDowell and Hinton argue that veridical perception and dreams are fundamentally different kinds of states sharing only a subjective character, leaving relational accounts of genuine perception intact.
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    Both theories suffer from an apparent inability to handle error. Science frequently teaches us that things are not in reality the way they appear to the senses. The sun, for example, perceptually appears as a small disk rather than the large sphere that it is (Descartes 1641). This perceptual experience cannot involve either the transmission of forms (since the sun doesn’t have those forms), or the “direct pick-up” of objective properties (again, those properties aren’t there to pick up). Nor co
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