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    It is not the case that The existence of the universe can be made comprehensible if we suppose that it is brought about by God.

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    • 1.Invoking God as explanans merely relocates the demand for explanation rather than satisfying it, since divine existence itself requires comprehension.
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    • 2.Swinburne's asymmetry—that God's uncaused existence is more probable than the universe's—presupposes a prior probability space whose own origin is left unaccounted for.
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    • 3.A regress-stopping explanation must be intrinsically self-explanatory, a criterion that personal agency (Hume, Dialogues XI) satisfies no better than brute physical necessity.
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    • 1.David Hume established that causal necessity is a concept derived from intra-world regularities and cannot be coherently projected onto the totality of existence.
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    • 2.If 'the universe exists uncaused' is improbable, this judgment requires a reference class of universes, which is unavailable to any finite reasoner, rendering the probability claim empty.
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    • 3.The Humean tradition therefore blocks Swinburne's P2: comparative likelihood assessments between 'God uncaused' and 'universe uncaused' lack the empirical grounding probability judgments require.
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    • 1.There is quite a chance that if there is a God he will make something of the finitude and complexity of a universe.
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    • 2.It is very unlikely that a universe would exist uncaused, but rather more likely that God would exist uncaused.
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