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    It is not the case that The experience of beauty is an awareness of the object's effect on our representational faculty, not an awareness of the cause of that effect in the object itself.

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    • 1.Kant's own account in the Third Critique holds that aesthetic judgment makes a claim about the object ('this is beautiful'), not merely a report of inner sensation.
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    • 2.If beauty-experience were purely self-directed awareness of one's representational state, it could not carry the demand for universal assent that Kant identifies as constitutive of genuine taste judgments.
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    • 3.A purely introspective awareness of one's own faculty-state would be logically indistinguishable from mere agreeableness, collapsing the distinction Kant labors to preserve.
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    • 1.Baumgarten, whose framework grounds the claim, defines aesthetic perfection as a property of the object's sensible unity, cognized confusedly but nonetheless directed at the object.
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    • 2.If the experience of beauty were awareness only of one's representational effect rather than its cause, the normative dimension of Baumgarten's aesthetica—that trained taste tracks real objective perfection—would be unintelligible.
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    • 3.Leibniz's doctrine of confused cognition, which Baumgarten inherits, holds that confused representations are still representations of objective features, not mere self-referential states.
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    • 1.Beauty produces a sensation or sentiment (Empfindung) caused by the perfection of the object.
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    • 2.What we are aware of in the experience of beauty is our own representational state, not the perfection in the object that caused it.
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