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    The fact that a particular state coerces a person does no... — Carmelics
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    The fact that a particular state coerces a person does not establish a presumption that the state's coercive scheme must be specially tailored to that person's interests.

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    • 1.The sheer fact of being coerced by the state one inhabits does not generate special justice claims on that particular state.
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    • 2.Coercion requires adequate moral justification, not necessarily special responsiveness to the coerced individual's interests.
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    • 1.Coercion that is systematic and inescapable creates a relation of domination that demands justification to the dominated individual specifically.
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    • 2.A scheme of coercion can only be legitimate if its basic terms could be accepted by those subject to it, making individual justifiability a condition of legitimacy.
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    • 3.Rawls's 'circumstances of justice' entail that persons who are bound by a coercive scheme are owed reasons addressed to their particular standing as free and equal persons.
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    • 1.Michael Walzer's sphere sovereignty holds that coercive state power draws its legitimacy from membership, which carries reciprocal obligations tailored to members' shared understandings.
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    • 2.Membership-based legitimacy means the state's coercive authority is conditioned on substantive responsiveness to each member's basic interests, not merely collective welfare.
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    This argument will not do as it stands because there might be cases in which imposition of coercion is neither unconditionally right nor unconditionally wrong but rather conditionally acceptable—acceptable provided adequate compensation is paid to those whose autonomy is burdened by the coercion. Are there such cases? Perhaps conscription of youth for military service in a just war can be morally permissible, but only if compensation is paid to those coerced into this arduous and dangerous servi
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