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    The fatalistic inference to (10) is blocked regardless of... — Carmelics
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    The fatalistic inference to (10) is blocked regardless of whether steps (1)-(8) succeed or fail.

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    • 1.Either the argument fails somewhere along the way to (8), or it succeeds up through (8).
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    • 2.If it fails at one of these earlier steps, the fatalistic argument fails full stop.
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    • 3.If it reaches step (8) successfully, we have a case in which you cannot do otherwise than answer the phone tomorrow morning, but you are presumptively free in doing so, since you are acting on your own, and the circumstances that deprive you of alternatives do not in any way explain your action.
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    • 1.The Frankfurt-style cases that falsify (9) presuppose the agent could have done otherwise in some robust sense prior to the counterfactual intervener activating.
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    • 2.If the argument succeeds through (8), the causal history eliminating alternatives may itself undermine the sourcehood conditions Frankfurt cases require to preserve freedom.
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    • 3.A fatalistic inference blocked by denying (9) still yields unfreedom if the agent's action is causally overdetermined by factors wholly outside their control.
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    • 1.van Inwagen's consequence argument establishes that inability to do otherwise, when grounded in laws and the remote past, transfers responsibility-undermining unfreedom regardless of whether the constraint explains the action.
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    • 2.The supporting argument's distinction between explanation and deprivation of alternatives collapses if compatibilist sourcehood itself requires a history not fixed by factors beyond the agent's control.
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    If this is correct, the following dilemma critique of theological fatalism becomes available (Hunt 2017a). Either the argument fails somewhere along the way to (8), or it succeeds up through (8). If it fails at one of these earlier steps, it fails full stop. That’s the obvious horn of the dilemma. But if it reaches step (8) successfully, and reaches it for those reasons, we have a case in which you cannot do otherwise than answer the phone tomorrow morning, but you are presumptively free in doing so, since you are acting on your own, and the circumstances that deprive you of alternatives do no...

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