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    The Father and Son share a single divine substance (homoo... — Carmelics
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    Challenges→The Father and the Son are numerically distinct (non-identical).

    The Father and Son share a single divine substance (homoousios), which on relative identity accounts makes them the same God while distinct persons.

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    • 1.Relative identity allows X and Y to be identical in one respect (substance) while distinct in another (personhood), avoiding strict contradiction.
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    • 2.Homoousios affirms genuine metaphysical unity; persons could be 'same God' while maintaining real distinctions via relational properties.
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    • 3.This framework preserves both biblical monotheism and New Testament distinctions between Father, Son, and Spirit better than pure modalism.
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    • 1.Relative identity (X=Y in respect R, X≠Y in respect S) lacks consensus in formal logic and metaphysics; applying it to God is philosophically controversial.
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    • 2.If Father and Son are literally the 'same God,' calling them 'distinct persons' risks incoherence—personhood seems to require some form of distinctness.
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    • 3.This view requires accepting metaphysical categories (substance/person) that may not apply univocally to transcendent being, limiting explanatory power.
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