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    It is not the case that The first premise of moral arguments for God's existence is false

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    Reasons For

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    • 1.Morality is subjective or expressive rather than consisting of objective facts
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    • 2.Moral skepticism or error theory denies that objective moral facts exist
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    Reasons Against

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    • 1.Mackie's error theory entails that moral discourse is systematically false, yet this cannot account for the phenomenological certainty of judgments like 'torturing innocents for fun is wrong'.
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    • 2.Companions-in-guilt arguments show that if moral facts are eliminated, so are logical and mathematical facts, but eliminativism about logic is self-refuting.
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    • 3.Russ Shafer-Landau's non-naturalist realism establishes that moral facts can be sui generis and necessary without requiring divine grounding, severing the link the moral argument needs.
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    • 1.Joyce and Street's evolutionary debunking arguments against moral realism equally undermine the reliability of the cognitive faculties theists invoke to justify belief in God.
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    • 2.Korsgaard's constructivism grounds categorical moral obligations in the reflective structure of rational agency without positing objective moral facts, offering a non-theistic alternative to moral nihilism.
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