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    It is not the case that The legislator must persuade new citizens by non-rational means.

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    • 1.Habermas argues that legitimate political authority requires communicative rationality, not manipulation, even at the founding moment.
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    • 2.If citizens can be moved by non-rational means at founding, this establishes a precedent that undermines rational consent as the basis of legitimacy.
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    • 1.Kant's account of publicity holds that any maxim of governance that cannot withstand open rational scrutiny is itself unjust.
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    • 2.Rousseau's legislator conceals the human origins of law behind divine authority, which fails Kant's publicity test and corrupts the social contract from its inception.
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    • 1.New citizens at first lack the capacity to discern the good reasons that support the new laws.
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    • 2.The legislator must still move them to legislate in their own best interests.
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