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    The moral education view of punishment is problematic. — Carmelics
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    The moral education view of punishment is problematic.

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    • 1.Moral education requires genuine rational engagement, but punishment's coercive structure produces compliance through fear rather than authentic moral understanding.
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    • 2.Jean Hampton's own communicative framework concedes that hard treatment risks obscuring the moral message, undermining the educational goal from within.
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    • 3.An institution that structurally distorts its own purported aim fails on its own terms, making it not merely inefficient but self-defeating.
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    • 1.The moral education view presupposes a shared substantive moral framework between state and offender, which liberal neutrality forbids the state from enforcing.
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    • 2.Rawls's political liberalism establishes that state institutions cannot be justified by appeal to comprehensive moral doctrines citizens may reasonably reject.
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    • 3.Using state coercion to instill specific moral values treats citizens as subjects of moral formation rather than autonomous authors of their own ethical lives.
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    • 1.The education view endorses coercively restricting offenders' liberties as a means to confer a benefit on them.
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    • 2.Coercively restricting someone's liberties to confer a benefit on them is inappropriately paternalistic.
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    • Punishment may not be the most effective means of moral education.
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    We will attend to some abolitionist arguments in section 7. Even if those arguments can be met, even if legal punishment can be justified, at least in principle, the abolitionist challenge is one that must be met, rather than ignored; and it will help to remind us of the ways in which any practice of legal punishment is bound to be morally problematic.

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