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    It is not the case that The necessary being cannot be the universe.

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    Reasons For

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    • 1.Mereological complexity does not preclude necessary existence, as a complex whole can possess modal properties irreducible to its parts.
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    • 2.Spinoza's *Deus sive Natura* demonstrates a coherent tradition in which the universe itself is the one necessary, self-causing substance.
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    • 3.If the universe exists necessarily as a brute modal fact, no derivative emergence is required, undermining P1's scope.
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    Reason for 2 of 2
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    • 1.Necessitarian naturalists like Schaffer argue the cosmos is a fundamental, gunky whole from which parts are derived, not vice versa.
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    • 2.If the universe is the fundamental entity and parts are ontologically derivative, the universe's necessity is not emergent but primitive.
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    Reasons Against

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    • 1.Being a necessary being cannot be a derivative emergent property, otherwise the being would be contingent.
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    • 2.The connection between the essential properties of a necessary being must be necessary.
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    • 3.The universe is mereologically complex.
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