Skip to content
Carmelics
TopicsThinkersChangesContributorsLoading account…

    Carmelics

    A reasoning platform. Break down any belief into clear reasons, explore both sides, and weigh the evidence honestly.

    Navigate

    • Topics
    • Search
    • Recent Changes
    • Contribute
    • How It Works
    • Glossary
    • Thinkers
    • Contributors
    • About
    • Statistics
    • Terms
    • Privacy

    Database

    Statements
    —
    Perspectives
    —
    Topics
    —

    Press ? for keyboard shortcuts

    LoyalLoyalJusticeJustice
    Made withinDC&Austin
    Statements
    321,452
    Perspectives
    108,905
    Topics
    42
    Home/Original/inverse
    See Original
    Inverse View

    It is not the case that The patient-centered view and agent-centered views differ in their treatment of the trolley problem and analogous cases.

    ?Set your confidence on the premises below to see your aggregate.

    Reasons For

    2 perspectives
    Reason for 1 of 2
    ?
    • 1.Foot's original trolley problem was designed to test the doctrine of double effect, which straddles agent- and patient-centered concerns simultaneously.
      ?

      Think about whether this reason is strong or weak

    • 2.Cases that motivated both frameworks were constructed to isolate variables that neither framework cleanly separates, undermining the claim that they yield systematically different verdicts.
      ?

      Think about whether this reason is strong or weak

    • 3.Judith Jarvis Thomson's later revisions to trolley cases showed that intuitions track factors neither framework adequately captures, suggesting the dichotomy is theoretically underdetermined.
      ?

      Think about whether this reason is strong or weak

    Reason for 2 of 2
    ?
    • 1.Frances Kamm and Judith Thomson's work shows that agent-centered and patient-centered constraints often converge on identical verdicts in trolley-type cases.
      ?

      Think about whether this reason is strong or weak

    • 2.When two frameworks yield the same practical verdicts across canonical cases, their alleged theoretical difference lacks the action-guiding significance the claim implies.
      ?

      Think about whether this reason is strong or weak

    Reasons Against

    1 perspective
    Reason against
    ?
    • 1.Agent-centered views focus on the agent's mental state or whether the agent acted or caused the victim's harm.
      ?

      Think about whether this reason is strong or weak

    • 2.Patient-centered views focus on whether the victim's body, labor, or talents were the means by which the justifying results were produced.
      ?

      Think about whether this reason is strong or weak

    • 3.These distinct foci yield different verdicts on cases like the trolley problem and the transplant case.
      ?

      Think about whether this reason is strong or weak

    Next step

    Based on where you are in your exploration

    Strongest counterpoint
    Explore the most compelling reason on the other side.