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    The proposed escape from panpsychism — that having a thought as a part does not entail being a thinking thing — is itself absurd.

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    • 1.Brentano's thesis holds that intentionality — the 'aboutness' of mental states — is the defining mark of the mental, making thoughts intrinsically subject-directed.
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    • 2.If thoughts are intrinsically subject-directed, then a thought-part cannot be a mere inert constituent; it retains its intentional character within any whole containing it.
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    • 3.Any whole containing an intrinsically intentional part must itself instantiate that intentionality, collapsing the proposed escape into the panpsychism it sought to avoid.
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    • 1.Chalmers' combination problem demonstrates that no aggregation of micro-level mental properties straightforwardly yields macro-level mentality without the aggregate itself being minded.
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    • 2.The escape strategy presupposes that thought-parts can be concatenated into a non-thinking whole, but this is precisely the move the combination problem shows to be explanatorily incoherent.
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    • 3.An explanatorily incoherent escape strategy is not a genuine escape, making the original panpsychist entailment remain undefeated.
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    • 1.The only way to make sense of something having a thought as a part without itself thinking is to assume that thoughts are unthinking.
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    • 2.The assumption that thoughts are unthinking is absurd in itself.
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    As if this weren’t bad enough, Parmenides goes on to derive a further absurdity from the result of combining the proposal that forms are thoughts with the Pie Model conception of partaking. Assuming that thoughts do not have parts, the only way for an object to partake of a thought in accordance with the Pie Model is for the object to get the thought as a whole. So if forms are thoughts, then according to the Pie Model everything is composed of thoughts, and hence all things think. But, Parmenid
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