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    It is not the case that The Quakers' divine light is a creature, not God.

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    Reasons For

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    • 1.God and creatures are the only two possibilities for existing things.
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    • 2.The divine light, on the Quakers' view, cannot be God.
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    • 3.Therefore, the divine light must be a creature.
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    Reasons Against

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    • 1.Malebranche's occasionalism distinguishes God's essence from the intelligible extension He uses as medium, showing divine instruments can be creaturely.
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    • 2.The Quaker 'Inner Light' functions as an intermediary cause of illumination, and intermediary causes in Christian metaphysics are necessarily finite creatures.
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    • 3.John Norris, following Augustine, holds that only uncreated light is identical with God; any participated or communicated light is ontologically subordinate.
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    • 1.Aquinas establishes that whatever is received into a subject is received according to the mode of the receiver, so divine light received by finite minds becomes creaturely.
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    • 2.The Quaker doctrine attributes this light to individual conscience and experience, anchoring it in subjective human faculties, which are paradigmatically creaturely.
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