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    It is not the case that The saints in heaven have free will.

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    Reasons For

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    • 1.Libertarian free will requires the ability to do otherwise, but saints in heaven are confirmed in grace and cannot sin.
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    • 2.A will structurally incapable of choosing evil lacks the alternative possibilities required for libertarian freedom.
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    • 3.Therefore the libertarian-chosen character argument cannot ground genuine libertarian freedom in heaven.
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    Reason for 2 of 2
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    • 1.Aquinas held that the blessed in heaven see God through the beatific vision and are thereby necessitated to will the good.
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    • 2.A will necessitated toward its object by direct intellectual apprehension of infinite goodness is not acting from compatibilist self-determination but from rational compulsion.
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    • 3.Heavenly freedom thus collapses into a form of theological determinism incompatible with either libertarian or robust compatibilist accounts.
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    Reasons Against

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    • 1.The saints in heaven have freely chosen their own moral character.
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    • 2.A character that is libertarian freely chosen is the only kind of character that can determine compatibilist free choices.
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