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    Supports→The Yogācāra dream argument fails to establish the non-existence of external objects

    The Sautrāntika critic (as reconstructed by Dharmakīrti in Pramāṇavārttika) correctly notes that systematically correlated dream experiences across sentient beings demand a mind-independent explanatory basis that pure vijñāna-streams cannot supply.

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    • 1.Systematically correlated dream content across multiple subjects requires causal explanation beyond individual consciousness.
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    • 2.Pure consciousness-streams lack the structural resources to generate lawlike patterns shared among distinct sentient beings.
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    • 3.Mind-independent objects provide the most parsimonious explanation for dream-correlation regularities across populations.
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    • 1.Dream correlation could arise from shared karmic conditioning structures that don't require external physical objects.
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    • 2.The premise conflates inter-subjective correlation with mind-independence; shared mental structures suffice for systematic correlation.
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    • 3.Dharmakīrti's reconstruction may misrepresent the Sautrāntika position or impose assumptions foreign to their actual framework.
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    Key Terms

    Dharmakīrti(as the originator of the doctrine being discussed)
    An influential Indian Buddhist philosopher from the 7th century CE who developed important theories about how we know things and how the mind works.
    Pramāṇavārttika(as the source text being referenced)
    A major philosophical text written by Dharmakīrti that discusses theories of knowledge and how we can trust our beliefs.
    Sautrāntika(a historical philosophical tradition)
    An ancient Buddhist philosophical school (founded around the 4th century) that developed its own theory about how perception works and what we can know about reality.
    mind-independent explanatory basis(as what the critic argues dreams must have as their source)
    Something that exists and causes effects outside of any individual person's thoughts or consciousness—something real beyond just thoughts.
    systematically correlated(describing how dream experiences line up in consistent ways)
    When different things follow predictable patterns that match up with each other across many cases.
    vijñāna-streams(as what some philosophers thought might be the only reality)
    In Buddhist philosophy, the continuous flow of a person's individual conscious experiences and perceptions that make up their awareness.

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