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    The semiotic process must continue generating signs ad in... — Carmelics
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    The semiotic process must continue generating signs ad infinitum (semiotic infinite regress).

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    • 1.Allowing a terminating sign produces failed signs and collapses the semiotic chain.
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    • 2.Allowing a first sign that is not itself an interpretant equally produces failed signs.
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    • 3.Therefore, neither a first nor a final sign can be countenanced.
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    • 1.Peirce himself distinguishes 'logical' semiosis from 'psychological' semiosis, allowing interpretive habits to terminate chains in practice.
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    • 2.A settled habit or belief functions as a terminal interpretant that closes semiosis without producing a 'failed sign', per Peirce's pragmatic maxim.
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    • 3.If terminal interpretants are coherent within Peirce's own framework, P1 is false and the regress argument loses its forced conclusion.
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    • 1.Wittgenstein's rule-following considerations show that meaning can be grounded in forms of life rather than in an infinite chain of interpretive signs.
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    • 2.If ostensive definition and practical mastery can anchor meaning without further semiotic mediation, the regress is not necessary but merely possible.
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    • 3.A necessary regress requires showing no finite grounding is coherent, but the Wittgensteinian alternative defeats that premise on independent grounds.
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    To see this, imagine a chain of signs with either a first or a last sign. The final sign that terminates the semiotic process will have no interpretant; if it did, that interpretant would function as a further sign and generate a further interpretant, and the final sign would, in fact, not terminate the process. However, since any sign must determine an interpretant to count as a sign, the final sign would not be a sign unless it had an interpretant. Similarly, a first sign could not be the inte
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