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    The senses cannot provide immediate knowledge of the true... — Carmelics
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    The senses cannot provide immediate knowledge of the true nature of movements that impinge upon them

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    • 1.The senses serve to promote preservation of life by immediately indicating which particular bodies are harmful or profitable
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    • 2.If the senses gave immediate knowledge of the true nature of movements impinging upon them, they could not simultaneously indicate which bodies are good or harmful
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    • 3.Thoughts are successive, so the senses must respond first and foremost to the preservation value of a particular object
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    • 1.Aristotle's doctrine of proper sensibles holds that each sense faculty directly and infallibly apprehends its own characteristic object (e.g., color, sound).
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    • 2.If the senses directly grasp proper sensibles without error, then perceptual acquaintance constitutes a form of immediate knowledge of the causal properties producing those qualities.
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    • 3.The distinction between 'preservation value' and 'true nature' collapses if the causal structure of an object just is what makes it harmful or beneficial.
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    • 1.Reid's direct realism holds that perception involves non-inferential, immediate apprehension of external objects and their primary qualities via natural signs.
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    • 2.If natural signs reliably and constitutively disclose the mechanical properties of impinging bodies, then sensory knowledge of those properties is immediate rather than mediated by inference.
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    • 3.The functional role of a cognitive state in guiding preservation does not preclude that same state from simultaneously carrying veridical content about physical movement.
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    knowledge(Distinguished from mere true belief, which may be the product of indoctrination and need not exercise deliberative capacities.)
    Justified true belief — true belief that has been arrived at through the exercise of deliberative capacities, including comparison of and deliberation among alternatives.

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    Aristotle's doctrine of proper sensibles holds that each sense faculty directly ...If natural signs reliably and constitutively disclose the mechanical properties ...If the senses directly grasp proper sensibles without error, then perceptual acq...If the senses gave immediate knowledge of the true nature of movements impinging...
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    Reid's direct realism holds that perception involves non-inferential, immediate ...The distinction between 'preservation value' and 'true nature' collapses if the ...

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    SEP: desgabets
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    All conceptions conform to their object, and error consists in the will forming a judgement beyond conception. On this point, Desgabets’s account of error looks very much like that found in Descartes. However, in Desgabets, the domain of simple conception is less restricted, as is the proper function of the senses. The senses not only serve to determine what is good or harmful in life, but they also serve in knowing the nature of things. However, we often form false judgements of the true nature
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    The functional role of a cognitive state in guiding preservation does not preclu...
    The senses serve to promote preservation of life by immediately indicating which...
    Thoughts are successive, so the senses must respond first and foremost to the pr...
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