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    It is not the case that The standard account of identity entails that Pierre's doxastic position cannot be as described (or we must punt).

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    • 1.Kripke's puzzle shows that the standard Fregean apparatus for handling belief reports is independently defective, not that Pierre's situation is impossible.
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    • 2.Pierre's doxastic position is describable without contradiction if we reject the disquotation principle as universally valid across languages.
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    • 3.Kripke himself concludes the puzzle indicts our concept of belief, not that Pierre cannot hold the beliefs attributed to him.
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    • 1.Relativized or two-dimensional semantics (à la Kaplan/Chalmers) allows 'London' and 'Londres' to differ in cognitive significance while co-referring, dissolving the Fregean dilemma.
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    • 2.Church's argument assumes that propositional attitude reports are fully transparent to co-referential substitution, a premise Frege's own framework was designed to deny.
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    • 1.If Pierre's doxastic position is as described, then London and Londres are distinct objects (per Church's argument).
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    • 2.London and Londres are not different cities.
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