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    The state should intervene in Amish child-rearing practic... — Carmelics
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    The state should intervene in Amish child-rearing practices to provide children with an effective right of exit from their community

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    • 1.Cultural and religious communities exercise coercive power over children
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    • 2.A lack of education denies children the means to exit their community
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    • 3.Basic liberal principles require protecting the innocent from unjustified coercion
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    • 1.Yoder v. Wisconsin established that parental rights to transmit religious identity constitute a fundamental liberty interest deserving strict scrutiny.
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    • 2.The liberal state's neutrality principle forbids privileging the 'exit-ready autonomous chooser' as a normative ideal over the 'embedded community member'.
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    • 3.Galston's diversity liberalism holds that forcing children through autonomy-maximizing education itself constitutes a form of coercive assimilation.
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    • 1.Kukathas argues that freedom of association entails communities' rights to self-governance, including child-rearing, provided exit remains physically unobstructed.
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    • 2.State-mandated curricula designed to cultivate critical distance from one's tradition imposes a particular conception of the good life, violating liberal neutrality.
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    • 3.The relevant threshold for intervention is prevention of severe harm, not optimization of future autonomy, a standard Amish upbringing demonstrably meets.
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    The state should intervene in Amish child-rearing practices to ensure ...86%No state could persist for long if children did not assume the duties ...72%One must have the resources to leave and be sufficiently appealing or ...72%Harms to others give the state legitimate grounds for intervention.71%

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    Over the last thirty years, there has been a particular case that is at the core of this debate — Wisconsin vs. Yoder: [406 U.S. 205 (1972)]. In this case, the United States Supreme Court upheld the right of Amish parents to avoid compulsory schooling laws and remove their children from school at the age of 14 — thus, according to the Amish, avoiding secular influences that might undermine the traditional Amish way of life. Because cultural and religious communities raise and educate children, t
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