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    The Stoic unity thesis conflates the finished product of ... — Carmelics
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    Challenges→The Stoic virtues are unified such that possessing any one virtue entails possessing all virtues.

    The Stoic unity thesis conflates the finished product of complete virtue with the process of moral development, rendering moral progress conceptually unintelligible.

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    • 1.The Stoic sage possesses all virtues simultaneously and perfectly; partial virtue is conceptually impossible in their system.
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    • 2.If virtue is unified and indivisible, intermediate stages of development cannot constitute genuine moral progress toward it.
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    • 3.The theory leaves no room for explaining how someone transitions from vice to virtue without already possessing virtue.
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    • 1.Stoics distinguish between the ideal sage and the 'proficient' (prokoptōn) as distinct developmental stages with real meaning.
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    • 2.Progress can be intelligible as asymptotic approach toward a unified ideal without requiring the ideal to be partially instantiable.
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    • 3.Unity of virtue describes the *structure* of complete virtue, not the necessity that all intermediate steps be incoherent.
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